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Ever since the
resurrection of VOICES FROM THE DARKSIDE the Black Metal contents
unfortunately was almost non existing... This certainly didn't happen on
purpose or anything and we will definitely continue to feature a lot more
bands of that genre in the future as well, as long as we consider them worthy
enough.
So, when Rick Cortez of L.A.'s mighty SADISTIC INTENT offered us an interview
with DARKTHRONE's Fenriz, we obviously didn't hesitate for a second!
DARKTHRONE is without a doubt one of the most important (if not THE most
important) Black Metal acts ever and a good way to kick things off in this
department...
What
are your first memories of Metal and what are the first groups that inspired
you to play Death / Black Metal?
"Okay, my first memories of Metal, I got the URIAH
HEEP "Sweet Freedom" album for like my very first
birthday. I
was basically into the whole heavy shit from the beginning. When I was a kid I
didn't really listen to much children's music because I got all this Rock,
GRAND FUNK, THE DOORS and shit from one of my uncles. And then I got to know
as far as AC/DC with Bon
Scott, IRON MAIDEN, METALLICA and SLAYER as well. I first discovered them in
the end of '85, I don't know it was a long way back. So I was thinking better
listen to that shit, it's for me! But when it comes to Black Metal, I really
didn't understand the whole darkness of it, I bought like BATHORY in '86 and
shit but I really didn't get it until I heard this one song of TORMENTOR
from Hungary on a compilation tape in '89. That's when I like started
listening to older DESTRUCTION, KREATOR and shit again, all that darker
stuff."
How did you meet Nocturno Culto and what
year did DARKTHRONE come to exist?
"Well, it was basically because I wanted to take my project
a little more seriously so about in the Autumn, yeah, that's like '87 around
that time of year I was thinking why not take this a little more serious you
know. Then I met up with Nocturno Culto through a friend, a friend studying
for guitar. We had the line-up we had on "Soulside Journey" and
shit, that was early '88, that was hard but that was really when it started.
We started the whole DARKTHRONE thing making songs in '87 but Nocturno
Culto didn't join until early '88."
How do you feel about your debut "Soulside
Journey" today?
"You know, I have a strong connection with that
because it's the first album and you tend to listen to that album a lot. The
first album is sort of the thing even though if you hate it after it's
recorded and everything you always come back to that. It's different from all
the others but it's easy for me to like it now but I had to dis-own it for a
couple years because I was trying to make a point with all the Black Metal
shit. So I had to go total Black Metal or bust you know, Ha!
Ha!"
After "Soulside Journey" you
recorded "Goatlord" in 1991, why did you wait until 1996 to release
it?
"Goatlord" was just a rehearsal tape that was conducted
between late '90 and early '91. About the wait, I think it's because we
just didn't make the lyrics for that. And then in '94 we listened to that
rehearsal tape and listened to it again. The music on "Goatlord" is
basically better than on "Soulside Journey", so what can I say man,
I did some vocals on that rehearsal tape called "Goatlord" in '94
and then we released it in '96. Just a few people have that rehearsal tape. We
should have released it without the vocals, it would have been better, it
should just be a rehearsal tape."
On "A Blaze In The Northern Sky" you
thanked the slain Black / Death Metal legend Euronymous, would you say he
played a role on your musical direction as far as the Black Metal thing goes?
"I think he played a role throughout supporting the darker
bands all the way as far as dealing with the underground, and had more of an
interest on us that a lot of other people. I think it was great to have him
there like sort of an anchor you know. He was a fuckin' anchor."
Was Euronymous' record shop "Helvete"
a meeting ground for the Norwegian Black Metal scene? If so, who were some of
the people that hung out there?
"It was a meeting ground for people from ENSLAVED,
EMPEROR, THORNS, THOUGH SHALT SUFFER, Count Grishnacht. We met around there
but we were no more than like 15 people or something like that. His shop
started out in August '91 and it was basically closed Christmas time '92, so
it just existed for one and a half years."
What do you think about the "Lords Of
Chaos" book?
"Fuck that book man! I think it's just like a hype, I
have no further comment because I haven't really read it."
I know that you are very much influenced by
BATHORY and CELTIC FROST. How do feel about Quorthon and Tom G. Warrior's
negative thoughts on their old (classic) releases now a days?
"Well, I understand them, but if you release something,
everyone has their own version of what you create, so Quorthon and Tom G.
Warrior can say whatever they want, it's cool man but I say their old albums
rule! If they like their old albums or hate their old albums it's all the same
to me. It's what I can get out of it you know."
On "Panzerfaust" I noticed you thanked
EXODUS for creating "Bonded By Blood". Any other American bands you
find significant as well?
"Of course, I got my bag full of what I'm going to play
tomorrow at Manchester (England). So we could say DARK ANGEL "Darkness
Descends" album is
one of my faves. Also SLAYER. I am wearing a POSSESSED
shirt right now! I had to pick that up in '92 because it was impossible to get
that over here in Oslo. So I just mail ordered like 10 copies and the last one
I gave to
Bard Faust now because he was out on parole. So of course, it's just that my
head is clogged up now."
What was your reaction when you found out that
Phil Anselmo likes DARKTHRONE?
"Well, I was thinking, oh no, now maybe DARKTHRONE is
gonna be the band that Phil likes instead of being DARKTHRONE. Apart from
that, I was disappointed a little bit, I didn't know him so I really couldn't
comment on it. Now that I know him, I'm really impressed by the man."
I agree, look at the "big" Metal
scene, not even SLAYER supports Death / Black Metal one bit and PANTERA has
already took bands like SATYRICON and MORBID ANGEL on tour! However, there are
still some Black Metal people who say it is not right for you or Satyr to work
with Phil Anselmo, what do you think?
"Hey yeah well you know, when you first get into Black Metal
you're supposed to be really fanatical you know, it's supposed to be obscure
and after that it's only natural you sort of release a bit. When we first
started the Norwegian Black Metal thing it was meant as a statement and we had
to do that at the time. I think it should basically be this form of
fanaticalness in any type of music but after a while you chill out a little
bit. Anyway, the envy of losers we piss on!"
I couldn't have said it better myself! So how
are things coming along with EIBON?
"You know, it's difficult for us to get together and
shit because the distance is huge and everyone is in different groups. We have
like four or five songs and we're just doing three more then we have an album,
and it's gonna be fuckin' tuff!"
Any plans for another NEPTUNE TOWERS
release?
"Fuck no, I have no plans for that. I ain't got no
plans for almost anything. We're working on the new DARKTHRONE album
now."
I've heard about the "Elm Street"
club, could you tell us a little more about it?
"Hmm, it's something in particular, people that come
here tend to be very disappointed. They think it's just like BATHORY beats all
the time but that is not the case. The case is we come here to sit and hang
along with others, other people, Rock'n'Roll people. It's pretty mellow, but
the thing is that, it's cool that there's places that have Grind bars and shit
like that but, to sit and listen to Grindcore at a pub. You just come here to
talk so basically what goes best in a pub is music that's really simple like
old AC/DC. For Thrash Metal, instead of playing CORONER I would first play
METALLICA because if you come here and listen to some CORONER, you got to
listen or you gotta, you can't just even talk and you know take CORONER at the
same time. It's really hard in a pub like this. So it's really nothing to
tell, it's really a regular Rock'n'Roll place."
Out of curiosity, what have you heard of
Los Angeles if anything as far as the Metal scene is concerned?
"For years I've known about SLAYER, DARK ANGEL,
TERRORIZER and SADISTIC INTENT. I've been listening to
"Resurrection" (SADISTIC INTENT), it's great man, total 80's!"
Obviously , today DARKTHRONE is known as a Black
Metal band and that stylistic title or approach essentially goes hand in hand
with Satanism. With that in mind, people have different interpretations behind
the semantics of Satanism. Would you say your philosophy of this is more of a
metaphor of your reality or is it something you literally believe in out of
the Holy Bible?
"To answer that question, basically I think DARKTHRONE is
about a grim aesthetic appeal. That's what I've been realizing all through
these years that we're just trying to do things within the realm that we have
created within the project. So it's like a fuckin' painting, we want to do the
same thing that's within the DARKTHRONE aesthetics made."
Do you have any new material ready for the next
DARKTHRONE release and will it be in the same vein as "Ravishing
Grimness"?
"Yeah, it's still DARKTHRONE. We got a couple of
songs now. The most important thing for me is to have the lyrics ready and
also for us is to have some sort of idea of what the cover should be like. The
music will basically be DARKTHRONE. We're not gonna make something other than
what we've been doing before. I think it's gonna be called "Corporal
Punishment"."
Have you ever made a video or think of
making a video for DARKTHRONE?
"We made this one because we had access to a studio
to record a song but that was in '89 or '90, it's just crap anyway. It was not
for official release, it was just for some students of Norwegian Television
who had to do a project."
I know you do not like playing live, but if a
promoter guaranteed DARKTHRONE at least 100 diehard fans at a venue with a
good PA system, stage, etc. would you consider doing it?
"Even if JR from Dallas was doing backing vocals we wouldn't
play live man, because Larry Hagman is the evil one!"
Thank you for the interview Fenriz, any closing
comments?
"Eat pussy! Ha! Ha!" (Ha! Ha! Ed)
Rick Cortez
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