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When it comes to brutal
Death Metal in its most intense form, Slovakia's DEMENTOR is definitely a name
to remember. These guys already released three impressive full length albums
("The Church Dies" - 1994, "Kill The Thought On Christ" –
1997 and "The Art Of Blasphemy" - 1998) and recently got picked up by
Osmose Productions who noticed their big potential and will release their newest
offering "Enslave The Weak" very shortly. For the following interview
we tracked down longtime member Rene Blahusiak, who turned out to be a really
friendly and dedicated guy... Read on and enjoy!
Rene, before
you joined DEMENTOR, they originally started out as a three piece in 1988, still
heavily influenced by VENOM, SLAYER, POSSESSED, KREATOR, CELTIC FROST and DEATH...
All those bands could definitely be considered as the heaviest around at the
time, so was it always DEMENTOR's vision to play as brutal as possible?
"Yes, we always wanted to produce music as brutal as possible. It was a
quite natural development. We started to listen to metal music at age 10 or 12.
At that time the most extreme bands were IRON MAIDEN, VENOM, CELTIC FROST,
BATHORY... Later on we discovered new bands like SLAYER, METALLICA, POSSESSED or
KREATOR and we began to love them. We always wanted to be like these bands."
Even though there's supposed to be several early rehearsal recordings from back
then, nothing officially got released until February 1992. So, I was wondering
how the band's name got out to the underground at the time? How did they manage
to get shows and everything without a release to back them up?
"Despite the good sound of these rehearsal recordings they were not spread
at all because of the very fast development of DEMENTOR. When they had done the
recordings they found out that it's too late to release them because they were
finding new dimensions of their creativity. Their music was changing very
quickly and the old rehearsal recordings didn't reflect their ideas well. At
that time there were not too much possibilities to play live. Sometimes they
arranged a concert in their surroundings. They invited some known bands from
their area and later these bands invited them to play at their concerts. Of
course shortly after I joined the band we realized that we really needed an
official good quality demo to introduce DEMENTOR more seriously."
You finally joined DEMENTOR in 1991 or 1992... What have you done previously and
how did you hook up with the guys? Was there a line-up change going on at the
time or did you just come on board as a fourth member?
"Well, I joined the band in 1991. Until then I played in my own band called
NECROTIC. Once I went to a concert close to our town where DEMENTOR was playing
in their initial line-up. I was very impressed by their show, started to admire
them and considered them as the best death metal band from Slovakia. And as
there were problems with the NECROTIC line-up I asked them to take me into the
band. It was a little bit complicated because at that time they were already
playing with two guitarists. However I encouraged myself when I got a message
that the 2nd guitarist left the band. I just had come to Roman (guitarist of
DEMENTOR) and told him that I am interested in playing in DEMENTOR. Fortunately
everything ended up fine for
me and I was allowed to join this band."
Were you the driving force behind the idea to finally record your first demo
"The Extinction Of Christianity"? Tell us a bit more about this first
release. Why did you still sing in the Slovak language at the time, was it
already a studio or another rehearsal recording and did you re-use any of those
songs later on?
"We really felt the need to record some official stuff that could represent
DEMENTOR on a better quality level. Since we had enough songs written we speeded
up the final preparation and booked the Exponent Studio to reach a better sound.
We didn't want to make another rehearsal recording. You know, at that time this
today quite known studio was equipped only with 4-tracks. We were actually the
pioneers among death metal bands which decided to record their stuff at that
studio. By the way, Exponent is known thankful to KRABATHOR who work there
regularly. We sang in Slovak because we did not know English at all. So, we
decided to sing in Slovak instead of bad English. We never used any of those
songs later. They only appeared on "The Extinction Of Christianity"."
How would you describe your material at the time? Any bands you could compare
the stuff to or that had the biggest influence on your songwriting at the time?
"Some people compared our music at that time to old stuff of PESTILENCE,
MORGOTH or SLAYER. We tried to play a fast form of death metal, however the
thrash metal influence was still obvious."
What made you record 9 songs for that demo? I mean, this is usually more common
for a full length album and not for a demo...
"You are right. 9 songs is quite a lot for a demo tape. However, at first
we had exactly this number of songs ready and we did not see any difference in
recording 5 or 9 songs. At second we wanted to introduce the complete material
to the labels. We had edited this demo according to our possibilities and then
we decided to attack some of the labels with the offer to edit this material on
CD/LP."
How's the response been on "The Extinction Of Christianity"? Did you
spread it around internationally already or was it more locally / inside your
home country?
"Yes, we also spread this material around in the international scene,
however not sufficiently. We were maybe too lazy or inexperienced and for that
reason we spread more copies in Slovakia and the Czech Republic. We (mostly) got
positive responses and got the offer from OSMOSE for distributing this demo
through their label. It was also due to our laziness that we didn't react on
that offer. We were too dull and thought that distribution means nothing
important for DEMENTOR. We only wanted to be on CD. It was our
main goal. There were also some Slovak and Czech promoters who noticed DEMENTOR
and helped us in the next period."
In 1993 "Morbid Infection" (your second demo) followed... This time
you "only" recorded 6 songs and also decided to sing in the English
language... Tell us a bit more about that and how you'd compare its material to
the songs on "The Extinction Of Christianity"...
"We found out that 6 songs are enough for a demo and also wanted to speed
up the whole process of preparation for the next recording. We actually recorded
"Morbid Infection" already in 1992. Initially we recorded this demo in
the Slovak language again. We didn't improve with our English, but after a
certain time we found out that English is very important for the next DEMENTOR
activities. We found a man who translated our lyrics into English and then we
went back to the studio to re-record the vocals in English in 1993. There were
some important changes between the 1st and the second demo. The main
fact was that we had a new vocalist with a really killing and devastating voice.
His throat was the most suitable element for the music that we created at that
time. We got more into brutal death metal where we tried to play mainly fast
rhythms."
How about live shows? Did you already have good possibilities to play around
those days? How did you usually promote a new DEMENTOR release?
"Yes, there were more and more offers to play at various kinds of concerts.
We just continued to supply various promoters, zines and labels with the new
demo. We got many possibilities to play at many festivals but also at smaller
concerts. At that time death metal was very popular here in both Slovakia and
the Czech Republic. At shows always 200 - 400 people showed up and we mainly
played in larger halls."
In 1993 two songs off that demo appeared on a Slovak compilation album entitled
"Necrometal I"... Tell us more about that and how you got the
opportunity? Which songs did you choose for that and which other bands appeared
on this compilation? Did it help to establish DEMENTOR a bit more?
"Necrometal I" was not a Slovak but a Czech compilation which
contained both Slovak and Czech bands. The main person behind this project was
Big Boss of ROOT. He was responsible for the selection of bands, managing etc.
Originally we decided on two songs of "Morbid Infection" which were
the title song and 'Predestined Future'. We got the possibility to record these
songs in a fully professional studio where we got some useful experiences. This
compilation had to be edited on CD / LP / MC. Unfortunately after a long delay
there arose some problems and Big Boss decided to edit this stuff under his new
established label Jupiter. Moreover he did not use professionally recorded songs
but took another two from the demo with worse sound quality. The list of
involved bands was modified as well. I do not remember which bands finally
appeared, but it is not important because almost all these bands do not exist
anymore these days. I think this compilation contributed to establish our name
at the scene as well. The main event for DEMENTOR was the participation at the
concert with French MASSACRA and CRUSHER which was organized by Jupiter Agency.
At that time it was very important."
There's also talk about several line-up changes throughout the years, so what
had mainly caused those changes and was it difficult to find new dedicated
members for this type of music in your area?
"Yes, there were many personal changes inside DEMENTOR. The main reason for
it was that the musicians were loosing the motivation and interest. Playing in a
such band as DEMENTOR requires a very strong effort and not everyone is willing
to sacrifice himself for such a hard work. Some of them just left DEMENTOR and
stopped playing but some of them started to play in bands with other styles. It
was always very hard to find dedicated people in our surroundings. However, we
finally managed to find some people who were part of DEMENTOR for a shorter or
longer time. At the moment we also have similar problems and it's harder and
harder to find someone. If there are any good talented and dedicated drummers
who would be able to move to Slovakia just write or call me. You know, when Paul
Speckmann moves from the US to the Czech Republic to play in KRABATHOR maybe
there will be some others ready to join DEMENTOR as well."
When and how did you exactly hook up with Immortal Souls Productions for the
release of your debut album "The Church Dies" and why was it only
released on cassette? I mean, you probably could've done that on your own again,
without the need of a label, so...
"It was not very complicated. I gave our demos to Juraj of ISP who was
editing the zine "Immortal Souls" at that time. I wanted him to
promote us through his zine. Soon after that he started to run a label and he
decided to realize a DEMENTOR album as his first product. Initially he wanted to
release DEMENTOR's first album on CD format as well if the MC would sell good.
But there were some problems and despite the fact that it was sold out "The
Church Dies" never came out on CD. I do not think we would be able to do
any better promotion for this album neither to spread this stuff on a better
level."
If you compare the sales of "The Church Dies" to your two demos, did
you notice a big difference? I mean, were Immortal Souls Productions able to
increase your sales / popularity?
"Of course. They spread our name quite well. We really noticed a big
difference. Anyway, it would be much more useful to have this album on CD
because this format is more focused in the interest of people. Some people do
not consider MC's to be an official album and think it is only a demo. For that
reason we didn't get any excessive popularity even though this material was
quite good from a musical point of view."
"The Church Dies" came out sometime in 1994, and then it took you
three long years to come up with your follow-up album "Kill The Thought On
Christ"... What happened to DEMENTOR in those years and why was "Kill
The Thought On Christ" released on CD after all?
"This period was full of line-up problems which I have already mentioned.
We were not able to find any suitable drummer who would be able to stay in the
band for a longer period. There were several people trying to play drums in
DEMENTOR until we found Joseph Pike. However, after "The Church Dies"
we immediately started to prepare new material and this creating process was
very often interrupted because of the aforementioned problems. After two years
we had only managed to create five new songs. Since it was the best time to
release something new we decided to go into the studio with this number of new
songs and complete the material with three songs from "The Church
Dies". These older songs were re-recorded in the completely new line-up and
we also added a cover song of the Slovak rock legend TUBLATANKA. We entered Pro
Art studio in the summer of 1996 and recorded "Kill The Thought On
Christ". We signed the contract with ISP again and the album was released
after some slight delay, because ISP were looking for a foreign label which
would be willing to co-operate with ISP on this release. ISP wanted to secure
better promotion for DEMENTOR abroad with this solution. Finally they did not
come to an agreement with any serious label and decided to finance it completely
by themselves. Those are the reasons of the three year break."
Who came up with this pretty unusual coversong on the album? Don't you think it
is musically a bit too far away from your own stuff?
"I made it up. I wanted to record an interesting cover. I just wanted a
song completely different from death metal. There were several possibilities
(AC/DC, MOTÖRHEAD), but finally we decided on TUBLATANKA which means some kind
of cult for the Slovak hard'n'heavy fans. When you listen to this version you
would never expect that this song is not death metal in its original form. We
turned it into very heavy and melodic death metal. Many people compared it to
HYPOCRISY."
"Kill The Thought On Christ" turned out more brutal than "The
Church Dies", so did your influences change at the time or was this
evolution based on all the line-up changes?
"No, we already wanted to be as brutal on "The Church Dies" as on
"Kill The Thought On Christ" but didn't reach a suitable sound at
Exponent Studio at that time. The guitar sound is too clear and thrashy and not
brutal enough. However, "The Church Dies" is faster than "Kill
The Thought On Christ" because at that time we had a quite good and
technical equipped drummer. We had the same influences as we had on "Kill
The Thought On Christ". The problem was the studio and patterns that we
used at that time."
After the album's release you played quite a lot of shows (including some
outside your country), so tell us a bit about that and how you got the
opportunities...
"Yes, we were invited by some different promoters to play in their
countries. The first time we traveled to a 2000km far Ukrainian city called
Dnepropetrovsk. We survived many experiences and had a lot of fun there. Later
we also played in Latvia and Germany."
You mentioned to me that you aren't really satisfied with "Kill The Thought
On Christ" anymore and that the drummer at the time wasn't able to play as
fast as you originally wanted him to do... So, why didn't you just look for a
replacement prior to the recordings?
"You are right, we should have looked for a suitable replacement before we
started to record "Kill The Thought On Christ", but at that time we
didn't expect such a poor result. When we were in the studio we asked him to
play faster but did not succeed. It was a pity because played faster the result
would be better. Like I mentioned, it is hard to find proper musicians here in
my surroundings, especially drummers."
To me it's not just the drumming, but also the guitar sound that lacks a bit in
the brutality that you finally achieved on "The Art Of Blasphemy"...
Would you agree that "Kill The Thought On Christ" probably turned out
a bit too "light" in that department?
"I do not know. I think both albums contain a very heavy and brutal guitar
sound. Although there was a difference in the process of recording guitars for
both albums. For "Kill The Thought On Christ" we only recorded two
guitars for each track. Only for the last song (what is actually the cover song)
3 guitars were used for each track. I mean the number of guitars which you can
hear in separate load-speakers. You can realize that the last song sounds very
heavy and brutal. For "The Art Of Blasphemy" we recorded three guitars
for each track. Finally we found out that it was not the best solution to make
the sound brutal because this way some of the technical riffs are not very clear.
For the forthcoming album "Enslave The Weak" we returned to the older
patterns but used another equipment. I think with this album we reached the most
optimal sound for DEMENTOR."
Unlike "The Church Dies", "Kill The Thought On Christ"
didn't feature a real DEMENTOR bandlogo on the cover and a very simply cover
artwork / design... What was the reason for that and were you satisfied with its
overall packaging?
"I think both albums contained our original logo however some were a little
bit changed. I can admit we always did some changes with our logos but in
general it was still the same initial logo..."
Well, my copy of "Kill The Thought On Christ" just has ordinary
letters and no real logo...
"Oh, then you probably have the second edition of it... That edition
doesn't have a DEMENTOR logo. The booklet was also completely changed. Only the
art work and photo on the back are original. As for the covers:
"Kill The Thought On Christ" really features an easier kind of cover
art work but it was our wish. We told our painter the title of the album and
then he sent us the proposal of the art work. We liked it very much despite it
was simple."
"Kill The Thought On Christ" was the first DEMENTOR release on which
you also took over the lead vocal duties... A fact that I personally consider as
the best decision you could've come up with. In my opinion your voice is just
perfect for brutal Death Metal and often even reminds me on Ross Dolan from
IMMOLATION... So, when did you notice your "talent" and why ha ven't
you been singing earlier already?
"Thank you very much. I do not encounter such kind of question very often.
In reviews there is often mentioned that the vocals are good, brutal etc.
However nobody told me directly that my voice is great. I had to take over the
vocals regardless I noticed some talent or not. Easily, the singer left the band
and there was no time to look for another one. I thought I am the only person
whom I can trust and took this responsibility. It was at the time of permanent
personal changes and I am sure that I will remain in the DEMENTOR line-up till
the end. On the other hand I still had problems with English and after some time
I felt some kind of minor complex listening to my pronunciation on "Kill
The Thought On Christ". I hope everything was solved these days and think
the new album will be almost without any mistakes. I never thought I will sing
in DEMENTOR and my most favorite singer is David Vincent forever."
By the way, was "Kill The Thought On Christ" re-released last year or
what is the reason that on my copy also has "1999" on it?
"No, actually it is not a re-lease. Only the cover was changed with the new
edition." (that maybe explains why it doesn't feature a real logo?! –
Frank)
For your next album "The Art Of Blasphemy" Immortal Souls Productions
obviously wanted to keep you on their label (based on the comments on your bio),
but you decided to leave them for the Repulse Records sublabel Qabalah
Productions... Why? Weren't you completely satisfied with Immortal Souls and why
weren't you signed to Repulse directly?
"We were satisfied with ISP and for that reason we negotiated with them
again, but we wanted to get to some foreign (European) label. We had many
reasons for that. At first some people here in Slovakia thought ISP is only
releasing DEMENTOR because of my friendship with Juraj Harin, which is
completely bullshit. Nobody would release his friend's bad album only because of
the friendship. We were more than sure that "The Art Of Blasphemy" is
strong enough to be released by some better label. Finally we dealt with
Listenable and Qabalah as the other labels rejected our album because of our
full edition plan. We asked Repulse directly but when I called them they
recommended me to have negotiations with Qabalah, what is their sublabel.
Actually it is the same to be on Qabalah or Repulse. They do the same promotion
and distribution for all their bands. We knew we would get good support from
Qabalah and signed to them."
Was Qabalah the only offer you got at the time or were there more labels
interested in DEMENTOR?
"Only Qabalah, ISP and in the beginning Listenable was interested as well.
And later OSMOSE was also interested but the deal has been already signed.
Fortunately!"
"The Art Of Blasphemy" once again turned out more extreme and you
could mainly compare its brutality to the American Death Metal acts... So, would
you say that you get your main inspirations from overthere nowadays?
"The main inspiration for DEMENTOR these days are bands like MORBID ANGEL,
DEICIDE, VADER, CANNIBAL CORPSE... But we don't just want to become a copy, we
only try to learn from them how to build good death metal songs. At this time we
are also able to create our own patterns and melodies which are typical for
DEMENTOR."
How was the response on that album in general? I mean, it was the first DEMENTOR
release on a already established company, so did you notice a difference in any
way?
"Yeah, many people like this album and we are more and more respected in
the death metal scene. It is always very encouraging to listen to these positive
reactions. It gives us power to continue on in this way. I think Qabalah /
Repulse did a really good promotion and we also try to be active and to be in
touch with as many people as possible."
Was the Qabalah deal for one album only or why did you accept the offer from
Osmose Productions straight away? Did they contact you because of your "The
Art Of Blasphemy" album or were they interested in the band earlier already?
"The deal with Qabalah was only for one album. Osmose had shown their
interest shortly after we signed the contract with Qabalah. I was very surprised,
because we didn't offer them "The Art Of Blasphemy". They got a promo
record from certain people in France where we sent some pieces to. We didn't
think that such a great label would be interested in any death metal band from
Eastern Europe. You know, we always thought that there is lack of interest in
Eastern bands because people in the Western part of Europe think we are not good
quality. Many Swedish, German or Dutch bands are preferred over Slovak, Czech or
Polish bands. But there are proofs such as VADER, KRABATHOR or DEVILYN that we
can create the same quality music. I hope DEMENTOR will be the next proof."
By the way, why did you once again use a different logo on "The Art Of
Blasphemy"?
"On "The Art Of Blasphemy" some effect was used to make the logo
look like some liquid or plastic. I think it was the nicest logo that we ever
have used. In general it is the same logo as on "Kill The Thought On
Christ". For the new album one of my friends prepared some new details that
were added to the original feature of our logo. I can assure you that no
dramatic change will be done with our logo. The cover artwork will be probably
drawn by a new artist however we haven't decided yet and it is sure that the
artwork of Jan Sakmar (DEMENTOR painter) will be used as well but only somewhere
in the booklet."
By now you have already finished your brand-new album "Enslave The Weak"...
Tell us all necessary details about it and how it compares to your previous
material!
"These days (July 16th) we are finishing, but we have not
finished yet. I hope we will complete it on this Sunday. Yesterday we started
mixing. "Enslave The Weak" will contain 9 new songs. It will not
differ from "The Art Of Blasphemy", I think it will be better! We had
more time for the recordings so we could concentrate on achieving a better
result. You will get the next load of blasphemy with "Enslave The Weak"."
When it comes to the lyrics, I noticed that you got some help from Juraj (of
Immortal Souls Productions) on "The Art Of Blasphemy"... A quite
unusual thing, that a label owner contributes lyrics, so how did that come about
and has he already helped you on "Kill The Thought On Christ?
"Well, Juraj is the owner of the label, but moreover he is also a fan of
Death Metal and a really devoted person to this kind of music. The co-operation
started on "Kill The Thought On Christ" where Juraj contributed two or
three lyrics. He easily wanted to express his feelings and wrote some lyrics for
DEMENTOR. We are good friends and there were no obstacles not to use his work. I
must admit I am too lazy to sit down and write the lyrics. For that reason I
asked another friend for help which is Peter Hasselbrack of BLOODSOAKED
PROMOTION from USA. He wrote very good lyrics for our new album. He contributed
four blasphemous lyrics for "Enslave The Weak". By the way I like the
lyrical concept of "Enslave The Weak" most of all our albums because
only now it will be a purely blasphemous and anti-religious oriented album
without any psychological bullshit."
Straight from the start, you obviously focused your lyrics on anti-christian
themes... Is that based on own experiences or do you just go for those topics
because it simply fits this type of brutal music best?
"It is based on our experiences. We look around and see their hypocrisy.
They speak about a fair master, but they are only able to do whatever to get
more possession. I am deeply confident that Christianity brings nothing good but
only hate to other religions, other cultures and also wars. But the same is also
valid in connection with other dangerous religions. Christianity says that
people have to be decent and not have to look for possession, but they live in
the highest luxury, surrounded by gold. On the other hand I can not deny that
this topic fits our music as well. But be sure it is not only our image that we
chosen, but our conviction."
Anything else we might have forgotten here and that you'd like to mention?
"I think we mentioned almost everything. Maybe not that DEMENTOR is going
on tour with the Japanese band DEFILED in September 2000. We will definitely
appear in Ludwigshafen on the 16th of September. We still negotiate
about any other places. Thank you very much for this professional and great
interview, Frank. It was pleasure for me to answer your questions. KEEP THE
BLASPHEMY!"
Bandcontact: dementor@miesto.sk
Frank Stöver
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