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The
angel was made of iron. Not the best material for naturally flying objects, you
know, but the desire to touch the sky was too strong to keep him in the safety
of heaven, and as long as both his wings worked in perfect union, as long as
they were as one, he could fly high and the sunrays were playing on his iron
wings. But nothing is eternal under this moon. Little by little the wings began
to find themselves arguing severely more and more often, and finally the day
came when each of them made for their own, opposite ways. Excuse my
disappointing those of you waiting for the happy end, there isn't one to be
found here. The angel fell to the ground and Death greeted him with a warm
encouraging smile and opened her cordial embrace for him. Rejected by the sky,
sheltered by the soil, he's fallen a victim of his own self. But is it really
the end of the story? Both yes and no, for memory does not necessarily play
according to the rules of the One with a scythe. That's why sometimes, when
looking into the sky, for a moment it may seem to you that you were able to
catch sight of reflection of his iron wings gleaming in the sun. Once a king –
always a king...
IRON
ANGEL existed for less than 5 years and recorded only two albums but are
remembered and admired even these days, 15 years later. Mike (Matthes, IRON
ANGEL drummer), what do you think it is an indication of – greatness of the
past or weakness of the present? I know, you can't be impartial here, but what
the hell – it was you who was making that music, therefore you have all the
rights to speak and let the truth be known...
"I think we are still remembered today because we were
the first German Speed Metal band which played with a lot of power and speed.
What can
also be a
reason is
that our singer Dirk's vocals differed
very much from the other singers of that time.
A good
example is, I believe, our first gig.
As we began to play, the people stood there rigidly, marvelled
at a German band playing music like
MOTÖRHEAD did. At the end
of this gig we had to play the song 'Heavy
Metal Soldiers'
five times as an encore. Anyway,
I think all this must have something to do with people
who have our first demo or our album "Hellish
Crossfire",
the first one. However, I believe it's
not the quality, but the sort of the music
we have done
what
impresses the people, and it
allows to think of us up to this day."
Who
or what was it to bring Metal into your life for the first time?
"I
have two brothers
who used to listen to
bands
like
JUDAS PRIEST, KISS and MOTÖRHEAD
at a time
when my interest in
music started."
How,
when and where did IRON ANGEL come to life?
"IRON
ANGEL was created in 1980 as a school-band, at that time we were still called
METAL GODS (a song of JUDAS PRIEST). We renamed us, after some time, into IRON
ANGEL."
Have
that choice of new bandname had anything to do with IRON MAIDEN?
"No,
not at all. At the time as we named us IRON ANGEL I have read a lot of
imagination novels, among other things also novels about a spirit hunter. In one
of these novels the name Iron Angel was found, and when I suggested the name,
all were inspired. So we came to the name IRON ANGEL."
Your
Demo '83 was one of the first Speed Metal records from Germany, was it anything
special for you?
"Yes,
we were particularly proud of being the first German Speed Metal band which was
accepted in Germany."
In
your early days you often played together with DESTRUCTION who were nothing more
than the newcomers then, just like IRON ANGEL. Could you foresee back then that
DESTRUCTION were going to grow into one of the leading Thrash forces in just a
couple of years?
"Yes,
I think DESTRUCTION has already had the cult status at the time. For me
DESTRUCTION, together with KREATOR and SODOM, are the best Thrash bands from
Germany, because they have their own style and also a lot of radiant emittance.
Greetings to Schmier and Mike."
Even
though Thrash was having its heydays exactly at that time and your music was
pretty close to it, you gave your preference to much more melodic and catchy
Speed Metal in the end. Did you find Thrash to be too unmelodic for your tastes?
"Not
only bands like MOTÖRHEAD and SLAYER affected us, but also bands like JUDAS
PRIEST, who belonged to Dirk's favourites. We wanted to try to connect Speed
Metal with melodic elements, what was not asked at the time yet, unfortunately,
but later it was done by bands like HELLOWEEN and then was also accepted by the
fans. I am also of the opinion that we were not a Thrash Metal band, but a Speed
Metal one. We had a gig with KREATOR in Belgium, where Mille of KREATOR said to
me: "You are the worst Thrash Metal band, but the best Speed Metal band
from Germany."
It
was the same line-up to record both IRON ANGEL albums, but what about the demos?
Exactly how many of them were released officially? In the tape-traders' lists
it's possible to find up to three of them...
"We
have done only one, the "Legions Of Evil" demo. Also there are still
two live demos, one from
Germany and another from Belgium, which were more or less "official"
demos. We also have always had the same line-up. Besides, up to "The
Rebirth" we had the only admission to the new people: Gunter Moritz on
guitar, who replaced Thorsten Lohmann during our Germany trip with KING DIAMOND
on
bass."
Had
the tapes contained any songs that didn't end up on any of your albums later?
"Yes,
those were three songs which we wanted to do on the successor of "Winds Of
War": 'Devils Gate', 'Maniac Of The Night' and 'Hounds Of Hell'."
Why
do you think it was especially that time, the middle of the eighties, when
German Metal scene was as strong as it had never been before and
would never be afterwards?
"I
think at that time there were very good bands, also you had to have some courage
to play Metal and to stand behind it. Today it ain't anymore, unfortunately,
because only very few good bands got no chance to record a CD."
Have
you ever been at least a bit more seriously into the Darkside topics than just
using them for writing songs like 'Black Mass', 'Sinner' or 'Legions Of Evil'?
"Yes,
at the time we all were interested very much in supernatural things, which
reflected in our lyrics back then."
Was
there a leader in IRON ANGEL, someone to make the most important decisions and
dictate his will to the rest of the band?
"No,
we have always decided everything together."
Do
you still consider the softening of sound on "Winds Of War" to be a
good decision, a step in the right direction for the band?
"In
my opinion the songs were not so bad. I believe the production was what allowed
the songs to sound
so softly. The producers in Germany pay very much attention to drums, bass and
singing, which is always in the front and the guitars get neglected. "Winds
Of War" is, in my opinion, a typically German production. I think, for
example, that if an American had mixed "Winds Of War", the result
would have turned out much harder."
Looking
back, at which point do you think something went wrong in IRON ANGEL? From
outside everything seemed to go very smoothly up to the release of the second
album, but what about the view from inside?
"Those
were musical differences. Peter, Dirk and I musically wanted back to "Hellish
Crossfire", again harder and faster songs, but Sven and Thorsten wanted to
do more and more Heavy Metal songs that went into the direction of RATT,
SCORPIONS".
That's
the "official" statement regarding IRON ANGEL's split, which is quite
usual and therefore infernally boring: "musical and personal differences".
Are the real causes still kept in top secret after all these years? Don't you
have anything to add on the subject, like what those differences were like and
how they happened to be strong enough to kill the band whose future looked more
or less bright at the time?
"Those
were really the reasons why it came to the split."
Did
any of your colleagues took part in any bands after IRON ANGEL's split?
"After
the split of IRON ANGEL we all have played in bands. Peter had been playing for
years with a Thrash band called ROOTS. Dirk still is a demanded studio-singer
today. However, he didn't sing in any bands after Iron fishing Angel. Sven has
played in some Heavy Metal bands whose names I have no idea of, because I have
no more contact to Sven. All what I know about Thorsten is that he has moved for
professional reasons to Bavaria. As for me, I have played in various Speed- and
Heavy Metal bands. Among other things also a very long time in Jürgen
Blackmore's band SUPERSTITION / J.R. Blackmore Group".
How
did you hook up with Ritchie Blackmore and what was that experience
all about? He's considered to be one of the most "unpleasant to deal with"
persons in heavy music, you know, so, having worked with him, did you share this
opinion too in the end?
"First of all, Jürgen is not such a difficult person like his father
Ritchie Blackmore is. With Jürgen one
could work very well. Today he still is a very good friend of mine." (Ehh,
stupid me, I thought it was Ritchie himself using different name for any "copyright"
reasons... - Timothy)
Have
you lost, at least partly, your faith in Metal throughout all these years? In
case you kept watching the scene all the time it is quite possible, I suppose...
Anyway, are you still proud to name yourselves "Heavy Metal soldiers"?
"No,
we have never lost the belief in Heavy Metal. With Heavy Metal Soldiers we have
not meant ourselves, but the fans who stood like an army behind the band."
Did
you take the tragedy that took Peter's life in the middle of your work on the
comeback
album as an omen, a destiny's warning to leave IRON ANGEL resting in peace?
"No,
I do not believe that Peter's death is an omen to not revive IRON ANGEL. Just
because Peter was one of the first ones who wanted to revive IRON ANGEL again."
What
kind of person was Peter?
"If
I start now writing what kind of person Peter was, I would be, in ten years,
still writing. Peter was my best friend, and I feel that with his death a part
of me has died as well."
Then
don't you think that the best tribute you could ever pay to him is to finish
recording and release "The Rebirth" album?
"We
will finish the recordings of "The Rebirth" anyway and release the CD.
We are not going to change the songs. Unfortunately, we could not record the
solo guitars any more, and there will be no guitar solo on "The Rebirth".
There will also still be the fourth album which I will only record with Dirk. I
will play all instruments and Dirk will sing all songs. The title will be
"Vier"".
The
cover of your new album differs quite drastically from the drawings in fantasy
style of "Hellish Crossfire" and "Winds Of War" – is it
exactly how you've changed yourselves within the years: away from fantasy,
closer to reality?
"I
believe "The Rebirth" cover represents our musical maturity. What
should not mean, however, that we are going to do any compromises musically
again. With "The Rebirth" we are heading back to our roots. The album
"Vier" still becomes harder though. We want back to "Hellish
Crossfire" anyway."
Do
you feel you've kept enough fire in your heart to make anything as exciting and
mind-blowing as "Hellish Crossfire" again these days?
"Naturally,
and also still even more. Like I said, we will do no more compromises musically.
Never!!"
"This
record is made for all speed metal fans and also for all heavy metal fans on
this Earth", that's what the cover of "Hellish Crosfire" revealed.
And these days everyone claims to make his / her music for him / herself
exclusively – have the times changed that much? Anyway, who were you making
your music for in the first place?
"This
sentence should only have said that we do music for each, not only for some part
of the fans".
What
did IRON ANGEL give you as a musician and as a person?
"IRON
ANGEL has always had and forever will determine my musical life. Today it's
leading me to where I've never been before. But it always returns anyway."
Timothy
Dovgy
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