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Sigurd Wongraven a.k.a. Satyr
(vocals, guitars, bass and synths) and Kjetil Haraldstad a.k.a. Frost (drums and
percussion) are in their late twenties now - unbelievably young, in fact, given
that they celebrate this year the 10th anniversary of their band SATYRICON.
Although it was actually in 1991 that Satyr put down the basis of SATYRICON,
1992 saw the first demo ("Satyricon") and Frost joining in, and that
was exactly 10 years ago. Even though they were a band with "full"
line-up at the time, soon it proved that only the two of them are enough to
carry on and create some of the greatest music in the Black Metal genre; so SATYRICON
was ever after to be thought of as a duo. In 1993 a second demo ("The
Forest Is My Throne", re-released in 1995 as a split with ENSLAVED) was
recorded and next year No Fashion Records signed the band, but due to heavy
financial problems during the recording sessions for the debut album ("Dark
Medieval Times"), Tatra Records bought the master tape. In order to
differentiate from the mostly industrial and electro-oriented releases of Tatra,
a sub-label was started, which gradually became independent, and that was
Satyr's own Moonfog Productions. After this a bit hard beginning, many
extraordinary albums carrying the brand of SATYRICON followed, namely "The
Shadowthrone" (1994), "Nemesis Divina" (1996),
"Megiddo" (EP, 1997), "Intermezzo II" (EP, 1999),
"Rebel Extravaganza" (1999), and the band was established as one of
the leading forces in Norwegian Metal. Going up the spiral of success, they
became recently also one of the very first Black Metal bands to sign a deal with
a major label, namely EMI. In the meantime, both musicians never confined
themselves to one band only. Satyr has been involved, to name but a few, with
STORM ("Nordavind", 1995), together with Herr Nagel (Gylve Nagell,
a.k.a. Fenriz from DARKTHRONE) and Kari Rueslaatten (ex-THE 3RD AND THE MORTAL);
WONGRAVEN ("Fjelltronen", 1995), his solo project, where Ihsahn (ex-EMPEROR)
can also be heard on grand piano and synths; Eibon, with Phil Anselmo (PANTERA),
Fenriz (DARKTHRONE) and Killjoy (NECROPHAGIA); THORNS, where he performed guest
vocals, etc. Frost, on the other hand, has played with a.o. ZYKLON-B
("Blood Must Be Shed", 1995) with Samoth (ex-EMPEROR), Ihsahn (ex-EMPEROR)
and Aldrahn (DHG); on the GORGOROTH albums "Antichrist" and
"Destroyer"; now with 1349... 10 years in the scene: a lot of time,
and also a lot of things to look back to. SATYRICON's anniversary will be
naturally celebrated with the retrospective album "Ten Horns - Ten
Diadems". Including two songs from each album (except the debut and the EP
"Megiddo", which are represented with one each), many of them
remastered, this compilation has also one exclusive track ('Serpent's Rise') and
an important thread to the future - the song 'Repined Bastard Nation', from the
fifth, brand new full-length album "Volcano". The anniversary album,
the past, present and future of Norway's greatest Black Metal band ever, and
first details about "Volcano" - these are some of the things we talked
about with Frost - a man as cultured and polite as very few are...
SATYRICON's
10-year-anniversary album "Ten Horns - Ten Diadems" is out now...
First of all, why did you choose that title?
"It sounds majestic, it has a relevance to darkness - the beast is
symbolized by ten horns and ten diadems in the book of revelations - and is
furthermore a reference to our ten years of musical activity. What more fitting
title could there be for the album?"
And how did you choose which songs to include?
"We just tried to pick the most significant and representative songs
from the different albums, in order to sum up our musical history the best way
possible, and hint a little about what the future will bring, too. It’s
impossible to say whether the collection is optimal; luckily, there is no bad
material to pick from!"
What is the story behind 'Serpent's Rise', which appears for the first
time now?
"It was originally intended to be the opening song for
“Volcano”, but plans were altered. It is a very strange and dark piece of
music, and it would have been a shame not to release it. Putting it on “Ten
Horns…” was the only natural thing to do, as we anyway wanted there to be
one exclusive track on that album."
'Repined Bastard Nation' is a song from "Volcano". Why did you
choose it for the anniversary album?
"It is a track that is quite easy to get into, and, since it is also
an outstandingly great song, it was a wise choice for the compilation album.
Anyway, when there are several strong and representative songs to choose
between, you will just have to pick one, won’t you?"
So how do you feel now, after ten years in the scene?
"I
feel comfortable about using the cliché “stronger that ever”. SATYRICON is
highly vital and powerful, a fact that bears evidence of our dedication and
will. Growing success is a natural result of our focused work and increasing
musical strength, and we can handle it. We have never made any compromises with
the band, and that is the way it’s going to stay."
What was, according to you, SATYRICON's greatest moment up to now?
"I really can’t tell. The release of “Rebel Extravaganza” was
undoubtedly an important event, as will be the release of “Volcano”."
How far do you think has SATYRICON made it from 1992 till 2002?
"To measure something as abstract as that is difficult; the obvious
facts are, however, that today we are a band with much authority, a band that
set standards, and we are deeply respected in many different environments - also
apart from the Black Metal scene - for our strong artistic integrity and high
level of quality. It seems like it is due time to start harvesting the fruits of
all those years of dedicated work."
Taking a look at the past, is there anything you're sorry for?
"No. We have definitely made decisions that have turned out not to
be the best for the band, but at the time of making them, those decisions seemed
to be the right ones."
And
taking a look at the future, what do you wish for?
"To make an impact, expand and grow stronger. I hope to see SATYRICON
turning into a beast of vast proportions - nothing less."
The next step in that
direction should be your new album "Volcano". What should we expect
from it?
"Strong, dark atmospheres, coldness, eeriness - you can expect
“Volcano” to invoke this in you. This album is mostly about powerful and
quite straightforward Black Metal, with some Thrash and Hardrock elements thrown
in. Don’t bother so much with how it eventually differs from the other albums
or what means are used to make the music - “Volcano” is a journey to the
deepest dark, you just have to let it take you there!"
In fact, why were both "Ten Horns - Ten Diadems" and
"Volcano" delayed so much?
"Mostly because the mix was delayed to such an extent. First we
waited for a long time in order to get Joe Baresi, whom Satyr strongly wanted to
work with, to help us with the mix - he was full-booked and therefore we just
had to wait until he could do it. We got an
appointment with him, but then, when two months of waiting had passed, it became
evident he was double-booked. So we just had to start the process of finding a
suitable technician again… Luckily, at last we ended up with Jeff
“Critter” who did a splendid work with the mix."
How do you feel now working with a major label, EMI?
"It seems like the cooperation is working well, but, since Satyr
handles the communication between band and label, I don’t know that much about
the current situation. We’ll see how good support EMI can give us when
"Volcano" is released and we start touring. Anyway, getting signed on
a major label that gives us 100% artistic freedom is really an accomplishment
for a strictly non-commercial Black Metal band!"
SATYRICON is, indeed, one of the first Black Metal band on a big label,
but it might become a trend - CRADLE OF FILTH also got a deal with Sony... What
do you think of the directions the Black Metal scene is taking in general?
"The
wrong kind of bands is shaping the scene to a large extent, and this is not at
all fortunate. A general conception of Black Metal being mostly harmonic and
pompous music totally without an edge is the opposite of how I want it to be,
but this seems to be the situation today. OK, so fuck the general misconception;
I focus on what interests me, and truly the scene is still very strong. SATYRICON
aside, there is excellent musical art being made by bands like MAYHEM, FURZE,
CARPATHIAN FOREST, ENSLAVED, THORNS, DARKTHRONE, 1349, AURA NOIR, GORGOROTH,
KHOLD and many others. So Black Metal can’t really be on the totally wrong
track, even if there are tons of shit being released as "Black Metal"
every day!"
What has changed in the scene in general, according to you, for the ten
years you've been witnessing that scene as an insider?
"Increased popularity and knowledge of the musical genre Black Metal
have inevitably lead to this, that the obscure, mysterious feeling that was
connected to Black Metal before has gone. It used to be a real happening when a
new Black Metal album was released; now Black Metal releases are a
run-of-the-mill affair. It’s not exciting anymore, much due to the fact that
98% of the releases are pure shit. Then, the focus has moved from actions done
by people connected to the Black Metal scene, to the music itself. This latter
development is, of course, fortunate for the scene."
Controversy, extravagance, progress, extremity - these are words that are
often mentioned in connection with SATYRICON. Your comment on them?
"What could I say about this? These words are all rightfully
mentioned in connection with SATYRICON!"
Over the years, many session musicians have played in SATYRICON (e.g. Ted
Skjellum a.k.a. Kveldulv or Nocturno Culto from DARKTHRONE with guitars on
"Nemesis Divina", Samoth from EMPEROR with guitars on "The
Shadowthrone", Snorre W. Ruch from THORNS on "Rebel
Extravaganza", etc.). Whom in particular did you enjoy the most working
with?
"Kveldulv and Richard "Daemon" Cabeza (bass, ex-DISMEMBER)
did in particular fit in SATYRICON… too bad the cooperation couldn’t last.
Anyway, I feel more than fine with the line-up for the live band as it is today.
Both Azarak (Steinar Gundersen, lead guitar) and Lars (Lars Norberg, bass) are
magnificent and dedicated people that it is a true pleasure to work with.
Hopefully we will get people of their calibre to
fill the two remaining roles."
Please say a couple of words, now from the distance of time and at the
point of looking back with the anniversary album, on each of the SATYRICON
releases:
"Rebel Extravaganza"
"Perfect aggression, coldness and darkness. "Rebel
Extravaganza" is state-of-the-art Black Metal."
"Intermezzo II"
"Our first audible sign after almost three years in the creative
pit. Most noteworthy on this release is the insane fury of 'I.N.R.I.', the
SARCOFAGO classic, and the mysterious darkness invoked by 'Blessed From Below'.
I like this release a lot."
"Megiddo"
"Our most experimental
release. Especially the (Apoptygma Berzerk) remix of 'The Dawn Of A New Age' has
been a bit hard to swallow by many fans, including me, but I still think
“Megiddo” is a good mini album."
"Nemesis Divina"
"Brutal and intense Black Metal. I am particularly satisfied with
the guitar work on this album."
"The
Shadowthrone"
“The Shadowthrone” sounds majestic and Norse above all, but is definitely a
Black Metal album, rather than a Viking Metal one."
"Dark Medieval Times"
"A damn fine debut album; the whole thing is LOADED with a weird
kind of darkness. The album set some standards back at the time of its release."
"The Forest Is My Throne"
"Primitive and barbaric Black Metal, BATHORY-style. This demo is
fucking great, even if the drums sound like being handled by a hippopotamus, or
some other animal lacking anything close to rhythmical sense!"
Oh - so when did you first start playing the drums?
"In 1989. I didn’t start to rehearse seriously before late ’92,
though, when I joined SATYRICON."
That explains "The Forest..." - case... And when do you think
you'll stop playing music - if ever?
"It’s totally useless thinking in terms like that."
What do you do in your everyday life, apart from SATYRICON?
"I study at a college, then I work at a gas station in order to pay
my bills… I exercise quite a lot, and rehearse almost every day. There’s not
much time left to do other things, but I am soon finishing my studies, so that
will change the situation quite a bit. I like to wander in the forest, and that
is one of those things I will do more regularly when getting the time to do so."
How
exactly did it happen that you decided to play full-time with 1349 [the current
line-up comprising you on drums, Ravn (vocals), Archaon (guitar), Tjalve
(guitar) and Seidemann (bass)]? By the way, does the band name have anything to
do with the Black Death, the great plague epidemy of that year?
"When it dawned upon me what a force 1349 really was, I decided to
join the band. It’s pure Black Metal hell! It suits me perfectly to play in one
band that is all about controlled hatred and discipline playing-wise, and one
that is all about sheer brutality and violent intensity. The moniker 1349 has
everything to do with the Black Death, it symbolizes the arrival of darkness,
death and grimness."
When should "Liberation" (the debut album of 1349) be out?
"Sometime this autumn."
Do you currently take part in any other musical projects?
"Apart from the mentioned two? Not really, but I’ll record the
drums for the next GEHENNA album, which will, by the way, be magnificent."
How would you define those ten years in the world of music in only, say,
3 words?
"Ingenious dark creativity."
Shortly
after we published the interview above, "Volcano" finally got
released, so here's a little update with Frost, focusing on the new record and
tour activities of SATYRICON...
First of all,
congratulations on the European release of "Volcano"!
"Oh, thanks a
lot!"
How have the reactions to the
album been so far?
"We've got
reactions from the Nordic countries only, because that was the first place where
"Volcano" was released. We were certain that the reception will be
good, but it was even better than we hoped for! We are more than satisfied, and
we also feel that this time people are getting the album much faster than was
the case with our previous releases, which, I think, is a positive sign."
"Volcano" has an
incredibly dark feeling. How did you accomplish that?
"It is a wish and
the ability to fullfil it, and the hard work you put into it. We have a composer
who has the ability to project his own very dark wishes and thoughts into the
music, meaning Satyr, and also the two of us having the spirit and the attitude
that is demanded to take it all the way to a finished album. We have been
working tremendously hard, and we had all along the passion that is needed to
make an album with such a strong feeling."
It
seems to me the music is more minimalistic than on, say, "Rebel
Extravaganza".
"Yeah, that is
true. It was a definite point for us to make the album a lot simpler, the reason
for that being that we wanted to pour that dark element over the music. And in
order for us to make that come through even more clear than we've ever done it
before, we had to make the music as simple as possible. Everything was going to
serve that main purpose, the uplifting dark atmosphere. If the music has a lot
of what you could call unnecessary details, that will steal attention away from
the feeling. If you listen to "Volcano" now, you're not going to
concentrate on how the music is performed technically and musically; we wanted
the atmosphere to grasp you immediately and to stay that way throughout the
entire album, so we stripped it of all effects and all details that didn't help
create the atmosphere, which is the wholeness of "Volcano"."
'Fuel For Hatred' is a
song many of your older fans will be surprised with...
"Well, perhaps -
I don't know. It actually seems to be a track that even many old-school people
like, because it has these old-school rock elements in it. To me it seems that
we have succeeded in many aspects with that song. No negative remarks so far,
actually."
There is also a video
for 'Fuel For Hatred'.
"Oh, that's
something! We've had it in our tourbus for a week or so now and we have watched
it several times and it's simply blowing us away! That video is so monumental,
so very much what we wanted, that we feel a very deep level of satisfaction with
it. It's like a constant attack of aggression and intensity, and the scenery
makes up for a very strong kind of darkness. It's everything we could have
wished for, and we had the best man in the world to do a video for us - Jonas
Åkerlund (famous for his work with Metallica,
Ozzy Osbourne, Madonna, Prodigy, etc.; he was also the drummer on the
first BATHORY album) - with his background and his skill... I think it's an
honour for us to have worked with a guy like him. It's a victory every time that
we get to work with the best people, who could have made a lot of money working
with something else! I understand that this is something Jonas had a very strong
feeling about, he strictly WANTED to do that video and he wanted to make it
really GOOD - and he has done it, so many thanks to him for that! Have you seen
it? No, of course you haven't, just a few people have so far, but they are
astonished, I can tell you!"
So how is it going to be
released?
"We will release
it on VHS and DVD, but in what sort of package, that's still a bit uncertain. We
have thought about releasing it on DVD with a couple of songs that we recorded
for "Volcano", but we didn't get to fit in on the album... Or perhaps
it will be released on a "Fuel For Hatred" single, or EP or
something... There are many possibilities, but we will release it in one way or
another, that's for sure."
Do
you have a favourite track on the album?
"I think I'll
have to mention two - 'Repined Bastard Nation' and 'Mental Mercury'. These are
the two songs that make the strongest impact on me as I am now. I love the
entire album, but these ones... What about you? What do you think about the
album? Do you have any favourites?"
I loved 'Black Lava' and 'Angstridden',
and I also like 'Mental Mercury' a lot... But I must say that 'Fuel For Hatred'
was the one I couldn't quite come up with.
"Well, it sticks
out in a way... It's a lot shorter and more direct, it has a different kind of
dynamics than the other tracks... The idea of it is like being run over by some
very large machine."
Maybe I'll get it at
some later point of listening... To change the topic for a moment, the photos in
the booklet have been taken in Iceland, right?
"Yes, we were in
Iceland in December last year. They are shot in different locations - we rented
a car and drove as far as we could before it gets dark. We tried to find places
that looked coherent with the idea we had for the pictures. We wanted them to be
very strict, and hard, and cold, and dark. I think we have succeeded - they are
just like we imagined them to be. We also worked with the make-up and the
clothing in order to get that kind of strict, simple line. We had a very
competent guy to take the shots - it's the same one who took the "Rebel
Extravagnza" pictures (Marcel Lelienhof), he really understands our way of
working."
And what is the idea behind
the snake on the cover?
"At first, we had
to choose from several alternatives, and pick the best one. Among these we
wanted a picture of a snake taken form an angle just above the head - so that
one looked exactly the way we wanted to have it. It turned out it's the one we
also wanted to use, it had the cover-quality to it. The snake is a very apparent
symbol of darkness. Furthermore, it is a being of nature, and a very dark one.
It has got an evil touch... It fits the organic sound and the darkness of the
album perfectly!"
Looking a bit back,
what was the studio experience like this time?
"The studio
itself (Puk Studios in Denmark, and partly Barracuda in Norway) was the best
equipped studio we've ever been in - a state-of-the-art mixing console and
everything else we needed. The recording process itself was initially what has
always been the case, but we were stressed with the element of perfection even
more this time. We have gotten much better, but we still strive for more... We
had a bit of a problem with the technical side of it, however, because the
engineer we were at first working with was an American, and after the September
attacks in the States last year he had some sort of a breakdown and didn't feel
capable of working with anything that had negativity and darkness in it. So he
basically just let us hang - we had made a lot of takes with him, and he had
worked with us in his own way, so finding a new technical engineer wasn't an
easy task. It was like starting all over again... But we found a very skilled
and competent person in Critter later. That delayed the whole thing quite a lot,
but it's all been because of the strive for perfection, all along the line. So
that' s the basic story behind the recording work this time."
How
did it happen that you have a guest appearance by Anja Garbarek (daughter of the
world-famous Jazz saxophonist Jan Garbarek) on "Volcano"?
"She was chosen
after going through quite a lot of names. Satyr visualized the kind of voice
that he wanted on certain themes of the album, and looking for that voice he
found it on a solo record by Anja Garbarek - she's actually quite a known artist
here in Norway. He contacted her, and it turned out that she was more than
willing to do the task. Finally, getting in the studio, she felt very inspired
and motivated. I think it was very interesting and fascinating for her to do
that, and very exciting as well - she devoted herself totally to the task at
hand. She managed to bring forth some elements of herself that she didn't know
she was capable of, or didn't know she possessed at all! Originally, what Satyr
wanted from her was a contribution of a very naked, bizzare kind of female
voice, but she even managed to bring forth a very dominant, dark-sounding voice
on the 'Black Lava' theme. I think it all sounds very good, very mysterious and
has that nice little touch to it that we wanted."
And how about Erik
Ljunggren of Zeromancer?
"He was working
with us as an engineer. He had to deal with the technical things around
producing the album, that's where he came into the picture."
Now you are on tour with
KHOLD. As far as I know, both you and Satyr like this band very much...
"Ah, that is
true! They deserve all the credits you can think of. It's a band that is very
healthy for the scene to have. It sounds very old-school in a HELLHAMMER-ish or
BATHORY-ish kind of way, but also has a modern, unique touch to it. I like it a
lot, it's ingenious! It fits to SATYRICON very well, too - both bands have some
sort of a rock basis, but sound completely different and that is very
good."
By the way, what is the live
line-up of SATYRICON, except you on drums and Satyr as vocalist?
"We have kept the
lead guitar player from the "Rebel Extravaganza" tours (Steinar
Gundersen). We are very happy with the capacity he has and I think he feels at
home with the band. We are most satisfied with having him there. I guess he will
remain a permanent member of the SATYRICON live line-up. Our bass player (Lars
K. Norberg) is from Spiral Architect,
a very technical progressive Metal band from Norway. He is the best bass player
I have ever witnessed play - at least this kind of music. He's just terrific,
he's monumental in his way of playing and his steadiness! There's also the
rhythm guitar player (A.O. Gronbech), whom we found through auditions. He used
to play in a Black Metal band here in Norway, called Keep
of Kalessin, but I believe it's now a finished project. He is
professional to the bone and fits very well in the band. We also currently have
a session synth player. Ivar Peersen from Enslaved
was handling the keyboards for us at the summer festivals, but he had to go back
to Enslaved and focus on their
work. However, he knew someone that he recommended very strongly - he said the
guy was an even better keyboard player than himself, playing in Malignant
Eternal from Bergen, Norway... We also found that he was good enough, so
he is doing the keys for us now. It's definitely the best live line-up that
we've ever had!"
Has anything crazy happened
on the road so far?
"I
wouldn't say so... I can't think of any particular thing that would strike me as
crazy. There has been just one incident - on the Rockefeller gig (in Oslo,
Norway) there was this stupid guy who threw a beer at the mixing console and
ruined 8 of the channels - it cost 1.2 million Norwegian crowns to repair it
afterwards - he spoiled so much at the most important show on this tour!
Unfortunately, we haven't been able to get hold of him - his life would have
been shortened quite a bit if that had happened! There has been some beer
spilling in the light mixer in Turku, Finland, as well... People just have to
stop throwing all these beers around - it seems they don't realize there's a lot
of technical equipment surrounding them. It's very sad that things like that
happen and that there are people who ruin a show like that! But the overall
response from our concerts has been totally good and that's what is
important."
You
will be having just one concert in Germany... Why?
"Oh, it's too
early to say. We are working right now putting up a tour, but we are having some
difficulties - there are too many short notices and so on... I don't think we
will end up doing just one show in Germany, but so far only a club in Hamburg
has given a decent offer. It may happen that we will delay the whole thing a bit
in order to put up a much better tour, in a better time and with a better
organization."
Talking about organization,
are you happy with the support of your new label, Capitol, so far?
"Yes, they have
done quite a lot to put up the Nordic tour, and also about the availability of
the album - that is a result of the very good distribution system that Capitol /
EMI has got, which we can make use of now. We had about 10 concerts in Norway
and there have been a lot of people on all of them, and sales in the Nordic
countries have been overwhelming as well, so seemingly the co-operation with EMI
is carrying fruits. What we can say so far, is that it's very good both for the
label and for us that the contract came about. Besides, they are not interfering
with our musical or artistic work - they are rather providing us with a very
strong support, which is just what we need."
What comes next on your
schedule now?
"After we are
finished with the Nordic tour, we'll start working on the European one. As I
said, I'm not sure if it will happen in November and December, or it will be
delayed a bit. That is the next thing, and we will also be looking after the
video matters. Live activity - that is the key word, I guess."
If there is anything
you'd like to add...
"Oh, there are
always books to write about those things you have on your mind... but that's not
the time to start such a large subject, so I'd better leave it with the talking
there."
And I'm sure these
books would be fascinating to read, but until then we'll spend our time enjoying
"Volcano"... A masterpiece as it is.
Both interviews: Deni Petrounova
Originally published by WALLS
OF FIRE, so all copyright
goes out to them!

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